I'm not talking about eels I'm talking about our stupid recruitiment and retention team.Like how can a group be so fcken stupid,surely we can petition to get em out of the club cause they fcken suck.Like you look at all the other clubs signing guns for good money then there's our stupid club who are "playing strategically "ITS NOT WORKING OUT FCK THE PLAYING STRATEGICALLY and go all out fmd.
Anytime I see eels connected to a player I instantly lose hope cause there's 0 chance of us even getting him even a reserve grade player we can chuck a mil at and they still won't come.Fck anyone here can do a better job then those idiots.
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Well an example is how they went for Galvin, didn't get him then about a month later went for Talagi and got him. They had a straight up plan B.
I guarantee if they didn't get Talagi they had others in talks as well. Gus has been the same at the Bulldogs. Always scheming and always running multiple plans. The Storm were literally on the phone to the big bosses to make Lomax happen and now they've got Isaako coming into an already stacked line-up.
These clubs are engineering big moves on the regular and securing rep talent into already top 4 lineups. And god knows the kind of backroom shenanigans that go down to make it happen.
We are playing checkers, most clubs are playing chess, and a few clubs are playing 4D Battlechess 5000.
Well said Captain and you're absolutely right. We still have that legacy "happy to make up the numbers" culture at the club and I absolutely hate saying that. Ryles made the comment in the presser after the saints win-words to the effect "if you said we'd be 2 and 1after 3 rounds we'd take it every day of the week". I guarantee you Penrith weren't thinking that at the start of the season.
Defence is terrible despite a full off season of training together and we lack mongrel in our forward pack. We lose 2 middles and we should be excited about another player getting his well deserved crack but is there really anything to be excited about??
We finished last season with what appeared to be well structured defence but it has gone backwards in a big way this year
All the clip said to me and much like the game on the weekend was how much more professionally run they are as a club than us.Sure we are early in the process but as mentioned we aren't anywhere close to Penrith on or off the park that's the reality of it.
From what you can see coming development wise there's nothing there that screams this thing looks like it's on the mend and when you see some of our best developed players walk in Brown Talagi and Sanders I don't think that happens at Penrith they'll have identified who stays and who goes.I think the only miss was Critta really but when you see Tago who was pretty much the replacement then Maclean right behind him and they recruit Alamoti they've well and truely done a restoration on losing Critta.
Compare us losing Brown we stop gap and still don't have answer next year that's the difference in professionalism and thought process there.Talk was last year because Riff grades had stagnated they may struggle but they've come out this year fully loaded and if the GF was played tomorrow they'd be paying a $1.01 there going that good.
I guess the point I'm making is that in none of the Panthers players you've mentioned they've over extended themselves to acquire. They've either come through the Panthers system or been cheap buys.
Captain in another blog said words to the effect "you don't become elite by buying discards another club doesn't want". I couldn't disagree more with that claim. Sure they can't be duds, that doesn't make us better but we need to find value. If the value isn't there we do not buy.
The panthers external recruitment is nothing but players unwanted at other clubs, or at least not wanted to the extent the player was willing to stay. They are all run of the mill nobodies at their previous club. Scott Sorenson, Paul Alomoti, Thomas Jenkins, Luke Garner, Isiah Papalli, Blaize Talagi. Any million dollar deals amongst that lot? Would it be fair to say those players have all improved as a result of being in the Panthers system? I've commented in the past, put the onus on our coaching staff.
They didn't all get to where they are straight away did they? It took a little while. Matt Cameron had been at the Panthers 10 years before they won their first premiership.
I sense you understand a bit about personal finance, at the start it's hard yakka and you think what's the point of this but if you stick at it the rewards come later (many years later). Those who get emotional, who chop and change and respond to whatever is going on in the world at that time are generally those who are going nowhere. Stay the course.
But that's the whole point isn't it they've already developed and secured there elite talent through the mentioned they don't have to recruit like we do.
I mean let's face it the only elite talent to come through our pathways the last decade are Junior Paulo and Dylan Brown.EA maybe able to fill in the blanks of potentially what we have coming but what I've seen developed wise it's not been great.Thats our problem we are so far behind we are left having to go for Galvin Kolomatangi and Barnett purely because we haven't that class coming through.
Infancy yes but like it's being mentioned they may aswell start looking past Moses because it doesn't look like we are doing anything in his time he has left here.
Ive mentioned this the last few days if we don't improve drastically do you blame Moses for asking for a release to go try and win elsewhere.I think without real signs of improvement I wouldn't blame him for wanting the mentioned would you.
You're right to disagree with my claim of "buying discards" as an overall strategy Adam - it was a very blunt statement and oversimplified.
What I should have said is "In our current predicament (with a squad that is substantially below that of others) we won't catch up by collecting those that others don't want". Of course there are a bunch of "ifs and buts" to that. Josh AC is a perfect example of where picking up a forced discard massively improved our squad.
But in our current environment where our recruitment largely seems to be reactive and not planned and methodical, we can't keep doing this thing where we look at every person on the outer at another club and think "they could be it for us!".
When you're thirsty, all liquid looks like a delicious drink. I don't want us drinking puddle water because we feel desperate. That was my point. But I agree it wasn't well made, you're right to call it out. 😁
Shout it from the mountains once again Coryn about all the untapped potential of finding talent in areas like Fiji and parts of NZ. Just go back to the well of what has sort of worked.
You were the first one to bring it up and it is right, set up a base in a NZ area and just start poaching talent, send over the ones that are truly special.
No point they no better I'll save my breath and watch everyone who isn't named Parra do it.
Never had faith in MON, only have to look at the state he left the Tigers in
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