Expansion and Competition Structure

The last I heard the ARLC was reviewing the possibilities of expansion at the end of the 2014 season. There has not been any official news on this so far, so I thought I'd have a say and get the opinions of the 1eyed mob. 

The current thinking is that the NRL is likely to expand to 18 teams in 2017 at the earliest. Possible teams with advanced bids to consider are:

Central Coast Bears

West Coast Pirates

Brisbane Bombers

Brisbane Brothers

Ipswich Jets

Central Qld Capricorns (?)

Less advanced bids but some interest shown:

PNG Hunters

Wellington Orcas (?)

No interest but also mentioned:

Adelaide Rams

Melbourne 2

Fiji

Hawaii 

I'd love to have all those teams (except Melbourne 2) but clearly that's ridiculous. But I do reckon we could add 4 teams. Much like the ARL did with some success in 1995 when they brought in the Reds, Crushers, Warriors and Cowboys to create a 20 team comp. So in 2017 I'd bring in the Pirates, Bears, Brothers and Ipswich for 20 teams and run the comp over 22 rounds.

Here's how the table looked at he end of the 1995 season

  

TeamPldWDLPFPAPDPts
1Manly Sea Eagles colours.svg Manly222002687248+43940
2Canberra colours.svg Canberra222002634255+37940
3Brisbane colours.svg Brisbane221705600364+23634
4Cronulla colours.svg Cronulla221606516287+22932
5Newcastle colours.svg Newcastle221507549396+15330
6Canterbury colours.svg Sydney Bulldogs221408468352+11628
7St. George colours.svg St. George221309583382+20126
8North Sydney colours.svg North Sydney221129542331+21124
9Eastern Suburbs colours.svg Sydney City2212010466406+6024
10Auckland colours.svg Auckland221309544493+5124
11Western Reds colours.svg Western Reds2211011361549-18822
12Illawarra colours.svg Illawarra2210111519431+8821
13Western Suburbs colours.svg Western Suburbs2210012459534-7520
14Penrith colours.svg Penrith229013481484-318
15Balmain colours.svg Sydney Tigers227015309591-28214
16South Queensland colours.svg South Queensland226115303502-19913
17Gold Coast Chargers colours.svg Gold Coast224117350628-2789
18South Sydney colours.svg South Sydney224117319686-3679
19Parramatta colours.svg Parramatta223019310690-3806
20North Queensland colours.svg North Queensland222020269660-3914

The warriors and reds went alright for their first year, so why not again?

So with 20 teams over 22 rounds you would split the teams into 5 groups of 4 and play each team in your group twice (6 games) and play each other team once (16 games). Groups would be:

SydW

Eels

Panthers

Dogs

Tigers

SydE

Roosters

Rabbits

Dragons

Sharks

North

Eagles

Bears

Knights

Titans

Qld

Broncos

Brothers

Jets

Cowboys

South (this group may seem to have a lot of travel but they have to travel anyway whoever they play)

Raiders

Warriors

Storm

Pirates

You could still run the comp over 26 weeks and have a rep month in the middle for State of Origin, City Country, and Pacific Cup + maybe a NZ/GB test series if Super League would go for it.

Pacific cup could feature Fiji, Tonga, Samoa, Cook Is, PNG and USA. With 2 groups of 3 with the winners of each group playing in the final. This would only need 3 games and would be a huge boost to international Rugby League.

Thoughts...

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  • Gee they were dark times. We finished 19th out of 20 FFS.
    As for new sides they should go with Central Coast Bears and another Brisbane team.
    • lucky they introduced 4 teams that year eh? We beat one of them at least! Man, looking again at that table, those bottom 6 teams were all shit. Poor spread of quality, maybe we should have 12 teams....you there Rupert?

  • Greg Florimo says you do doesn't he? I hope you do because I liked the Bears, I'd love to see them back. As far as sustainable and money goes, I reckon the front offices of most clubs are becoming more and more professional and business savvy. I think clubs are statng to rely less on grants and more on their own money making, so they don't have top worry about the size of the slice of pie they get from ARLC when they can bake their own. 

  • Another thing about that 95 table. Having a top 8 in a 20 team comp gives you all quality in the semis. You shouldn't be able to sneak into the 8, win your last 4 games and be premiers. No, there should be no mediocrity in the semis. In 94 if you lost 10 games you weren't good enough, in modern times you can lose half your games and still make the semis. That's not fair to the teams that busted their ass all year.

  • Perth would be the same as the Warriors travel and timezone wise. The Perth to NZ trip would be a bitch though. I put the warriors with perth as that is a natural rivalry with all the kiwis in perth not being AFL fans and looking for a team. The Warriors have played Perth a few times, so they're not bothered by the distance.

  • You could imagine a new team starting up with players "returning" to the NRL from rival codes. The NRL will top up their wages and place them where the NRL wants (new team).

    Considering the NRL provides all the cash in the salary cap, I don't see too much obstruction to a new team joining the comp.

    If channel nine connections or news ltd have a hand in the club, I'm sure the team will reform well.
    • * perform (not reform).
  • I'd be getting rid of the Sharks, and Balmain Tigers. If West Magpies can prove that they can be sustainable through good regular crowds, good sponsorship, and a high membership. If not then don't bother giving them the licence. Give the 2 licences given up by a combined Brothers/Jets outfit. I believe in that one group has all the juniors whilst the other has all the money. Then give the other to Perth.

  • Bring back the bears! They were always my 2nd team!
  • As much as I don't like saying it, there's just no future for the Bears. They've missed their opportunity. The Sydney market is already too crowded, and we have Newcastle. Brisbane definitely needs a second team, and I would suggest that Perth is a shoo-in. In saying all of that, I personally believe that the game doesn't have the talent to sustain any more teams.
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