Oz: 8th best Covid-19 response; why?

A Lowy Institite study ranked countries according to how they have managed coronavirus risks. NZ ranks 1st, Australia 8th. The Bottom 5 were: USA, Iran, Columbia, Mexico, Brazil. 
Note with all the debates about whether democracies or authoritarian regimes manage public risk better, or whether left or right of the political spectrum guards public health better, one fact stands out in the Lowy 100 List. The more a countries' politics is shaped by populist nationalism and strongman leadership, the worse it has done, regardless of whether the strongman is left or right politically. 
All the bottom 5 fit that description: US under (the far right) Trump, Iran under (fundamentalist, conservative Islam) Khamenei, Columbia under (right wing) Duque, Mexico under (leftist) Obrador, Brazil under (far right) Bolsonaro. The key element of populist strongman regimes is that they don't tolerate any devolution of power, and thus they attack other institutions: experts like health professionals, the media, courts, civic groups, etc, and they deligitimate any opposition as enemies of the state and insult then mercilessly. 
In Australia: ScoMo allowed a devolution of authority to States, who then effectively ran themselves as small population countries with strong border controls and close relations between political leadership and relevant institutions (like health care and medical experts). 
The lesson is? Beware the autocrats who are also populists and nationalists. It's the worst combination. 

SMH article: https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/analysis-ranks-the-countries-that-handled-covid-19-best-20210127-p56x3g.html

You need to be a member of 1Eyed Eel to add comments!

Join 1Eyed Eel

Votes: 0
Email me when people reply –

Replies

  • I think Australia is rather unique in that the states hold a lot of power (left over from colonial times), and anyway they are the ones running the health system. ScoMo probably could have held onto some of that power in the guise of national interests, but he did the right thing and handed over to the states what they do best.

    We saw various degrees on populism (QLD, WA), which ended up with a hardline approach, but luckliy as you say they are not autocrats (that notion is just about impossible here). Interestingly, I do believe our political systems would not have allowed Trump to persist as long as he did. Ultimately the pressure would have been great to do away with him long before the election. The trouble with Trump was that he just didn't listen to his advisers, and that was his downfall, and the downfall of the US with how they reacted to Covid.

    • Longfin, yes, the Aussie political system is better equipped to deal with would-be autocrats like Trump. Our political parties are stronger than the weak US parties (they can't control delegates at primaries), the party that gets the most popular votes wins power (power is formed in the lower house), and we have no power invested in an individual (no independent Presidency). 

      I suspect what we will see once elections in Oz roll around, is that Premiers are more vulnerable than the PM. ScoMo could rightfully take credit for strong borders and Jobkeeper, and Premiers were stuck with any fallout from lockdowns. Palaszczuk in QLD rode the popularity in QLD of no community transmission but Andrew's in VIC is probably in for a rough ride. But we only have to look to the US to see what would have happened if federal (non)leadership hobbled States. 

      • This reply was deleted.
        • I can only think that New Zealand has a woman as a leader and again the superior comes forth.

          There is also no doubt that Gladys has done a wonderful job for New South Wales......what a shame that the Qld premier is actually a man!

          • everyone bagged her at the time but she didnt let anyone in or out until the shit was gone, where we get too comfortable and reopen too soon

            • Jacinda was right. Her critics wrong. She won. They lost. End of story!

              • Imagine only having to manage a country smaller than Sydney ...  people who can compare her task to that of an actual country with hundreds of millions is either very bias or a fool . 

                • You do realize the virus has the same reproduction rate whether it is in a country of hundreds of millions or tens of millions or just millions?

                  The only thing truly small in your comment is your small-mindedness. 

                  • If you can't see how having a eeenie meeenie tiny little small population in a large space would make it substantially easier to manage then it's not worth even having the discussion .  

                    as I said before ,  by your logic our reponse to major earthquakes leaves hers for dead . 

                    • Wiz, are you aware the population density of NZ is 18 people per square kilometer? The pop density of VIC is 28/sqkm, of NSW 10/sqkm. Of course population density is uneven. Melbourne's is 450/sqkm. Auckland's is 300/sqkm. Apparently there is a small zone in inner city Melbourne at 8,000/km. There is probably an area in Auckland like this too. 

                      Your point, in other words, is completely undone by the unevenness of population density but the need to manage a virus with a stable Ro across populations. You have to plan for the most vulnerable. Except if you're the US, or Brazil, or India, or the UK, and you just roll the dice without thinking about you're social network weak points.

                      Honestly, I understand you're point about few people in big areas. But it is fallacious to overlook uneven population density and what that means. The virus, as we have seen in Oz, often enters through your airports and seaports, which are often in zones of high population densities. The story of containment starts there, not out in the boonies as your imagery suggests. 

                    • Hahaha classic Wiz right there.

This reply was deleted.

Latest comments

Poppa replied to Mr 'BringBackFitzy' Analyst's discussion Moses Suli anyone?
"We have done well with rejects Steely, that said we can and may do better, but I see no benefit in undermining him without at least seeing what he can do for us.
Just remember Ryles will have the final say, I am sure he will have enough information…"
7 minutes ago
Hell On Eels replied to Hell On Eels's discussion Mason and Scope on Parramatta Recruitment and How Premierships Are Won
"LB, that point you make about "belief" is huge not just in R&R, but in performance.
Terrell May is an excellent example.
Actually , he makes me wonder about someone like Suli who many clubs and fans don't believe in. "Oh he's crap, I will hand in…"
10 minutes ago
Poppa replied to Mr 'BringBackFitzy' Analyst's discussion Moses Suli anyone?
""This guy is as shit as it gets and there's clearly a reason St George are getting rid of him, it's because they've realised he's shit!"
Is this what you referred to Cheefy? I might have a seeing eye dog, but he read that out clearly to me......for…"
21 minutes ago
LB replied to Hell On Eels's discussion Mason and Scope on Parramatta Recruitment and How Premierships Are Won
"Oh yeah you need to, as you need to make them feel they are wanted to start, have belief they will be starting.
As for PNG, they are this boogeyman but are nothing but a shadow at the moment. Look who they have signed; Luai, Johnston, Watson and…"
41 minutes ago
Poppa replied to Eels95's discussion Thomas Jenkins
"He would be bought as a centre or wing with the potential to be a utility......any expectations of greatness would be a complete exxageration..... the decision could only rest with the alternatives we have....as someone mentioned you don't have to…"
44 minutes ago
Hell On Eels replied to Hell On Eels's discussion Mason and Scope on Parramatta Recruitment and How Premierships Are Won
"LB, the thing is, and Gus laments this all the time, you generally have to pay overs for good juniors you want to keep. Big Sam will be one. Let's hope he stays loyal.
Look at the consequences of this. It's probably another blog.
If Gus and Scope…"
46 minutes ago
Steel be with you replied to Mr 'BringBackFitzy' Analyst's discussion Moses Suli anyone?
"No thanks. Moses Suli was sacked by two teams for having a poor attitude. He's one of them players who was talked up a lot when he first came on the scene as being something but it has never materialised. "
49 minutes ago
Manuel Dortimer replied to ParramattaLurker's discussion Round 14 Team List v Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs
"Ryleys defence is equally as shit.  Doesnt engage any markers.  Speed bump in defence.  Doesnt have a short kicking game.  Id prefer Edwards defence over Ryleys "chase really hard" plays. "
49 minutes ago
Manuel Dortimer replied to ParramattaLurker's discussion Round 14 Team List v Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs
"Tallyn is better than Ryley.  I said what everyone is thinking.  There is much more to hooker play than kick pressure. "
51 minutes ago
Poppa replied to Eels95's discussion Thomas Jenkins
"You realise I am sticking up for you Cheefy, but I am a bit concerned he sees you as an old man.....you have a while to go to qualify as a silly old bastard Cheef...... but you will qualify one day.....you have the silly part down pat already."
55 minutes ago
Poppa replied to Eels95's discussion Thomas Jenkins
"I love meme's mainly because if you want to be a part of a site like this, you have to have a sense of humour. 
If you haven't got one than you all take yourselves too seriously.....as for Cheefy being in his late 40s /early 50's.....I wish I was,…"
58 minutes ago
Cʜɪᴇғy Mclovin replied to Mr 'BringBackFitzy' Analyst's discussion Moses Suli anyone?
"Didn't you read his post popa. He clearly states why st george are fing him off. Mate go and as Marcia for another double strength milo before you post at 8am.ffs"
1 hour ago
Poppa replied to Eels95's discussion Thomas Jenkins
"Just a correction on Galvin, it was not a case of more clubs going for him, than a fact that it was a total set up that Gould manufactured....those in the know, player agent wise all knew that Galvin was signed sealed and delivered months before it…"
1 hour ago
Poppa replied to Mr 'BringBackFitzy' Analyst's discussion Moses Suli anyone?
"or smarter?"
1 hour ago
Poppa replied to Mr 'BringBackFitzy' Analyst's discussion Moses Suli anyone?
"There are plenty worth the chase Dynasty, getting them is another thing.....sort of leaving one club to come to Parramatta requires some serious inducement!"
1 hour ago
Poppa replied to Mr 'BringBackFitzy' Analyst's discussion Moses Suli anyone?
"Clintorian  any reason St George getting rid of him? its a question I also asked but more importantly I like the idea of picking up players with ability (that is the subjective) in a club that has gone as poorly as Saints.
Adam Mcgrath did a little…"
1 hour ago
More…

Remember Rodney Hogg

Rodney was a late arrival to Test cricket at age 27. Born in Victoria he was overlooked by state selectors and moved to Adelaide to find an earlier path to Shield.He was selected and within a year he was noticed by Alan Davidson who mentioned his…

Read more…
6 Replies · Reply by Poppa May 27
Views: 275

 

Thomas Jenkins

I have no inside intel or contacts within rugby league circles, but this is one rumour I keep seeing in different parts of the internet.  Social media, Penrith forums, other eels forums etc.Milky Jenkins apparently is going to sign a 3 year deal…

Read more…
35 Replies · Reply by Poppa 44 minutes ago
Views: 1180

<script src="https://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/js/adsbygoogle.js"></script>
<!-- Sidebar -->
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<script>// <![CDATA[
(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({});
// ]]></script>