PREAMBLE: Ladies and Gentleman, Super is happy for this discussion to continue if we can remain civil and disagree respectfully, updated as necessary. If not, comments will be removed and if necessary the blog closed and any future Kirk-related blogs closed for discussion.
Part 1, by Wiz (more right leaning)
Part 2, by Prof Daz (more left leaning)
SYNOPSIS: Charlie Kirk spoke his final words at 12:23 p.m. on September 10, 2025, at Utah Valley University, in front of around three thousand people. Tyler Robinson, the 22-year-old alleged shooter of the 31-year-old Republican, remains under investigation. Utah’s governor suggested he may have been radicalized by the Left, though his MAGA-entrenched family and transgender partner complicate the narrative.
The attack shook the United States, exposing deep ideological fractures. Two days later, President Donald Trump concluded that “the radicals on the left are the problem” rather than the radical right who, he said, merely want to “stop crime,” framing the debate in partisan terms during a live Fox News interview. However, voices such as Jack Posobiec and Steve Bannon, speakers at Kirk’s conventions, had long used hard-line rhetoric, calling the Left “demonic” and urging the building of “an army of the awakened.”
History offers a far broader perspective. Abraham Lincoln, Yitzhak Rabin, Mahatma Gandhi, and Martin Luther King Jr. were assassinated by right-wing extremists. John F. Kennedy and Archduke Franz Ferdinand, whose death helped ignite World War I, were killed by left-leaning radicals. A two-way street.
Just months earlier, on June 14, Democrats Melissa and Mark Hortman were gunned down in their Brooklyn home by Vance Boelter, a hard-right evangelical, white Christian who disguised himself as a police officer. Married nearly 32 years, the couple left behind two children. The killings, however, received far less attention than Kirk’s death and did not prompt a presidential call to confront the radical right.
“What do they all share in common? Every political assassination is an attack on the collective; on our ability to disagree without destroying,” an academic observer noted. George Bernard Shaw called it the "extreme form of censorship."
Left or Right isn't the problem in my view. The greater danger lies in the radical mind and in how easily society nurtures the “us versus them” divide. As Desmond Tutu warned, “The moment we divide the world into ‘us’ and ‘them,’ we begin to lose our humanity.”
Charlie Kirk (above and below) is survived by his wife and two children.
Married nearly 32 years, Melissa and Mark Hortman as well as Gilbert, their Labrador (below) leave behind two children.
Boelter who assasinated the Hartmans allegedly kept a hit list of 70 targets, including Democratic lawmakers and even some anti-abortion clinics. The same early morning at 2am he invaded the Minnesota home (above) of the Hoffmans and their children who survived the shooting following surgery.
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Show me footage, and there is plenty of it, where he is carrying a rifle.
So have we found out if the shooter is a lefty or right winger yet ? Or is that suddenly not as important to same anymore?
Not even convinced we have found the shooter now. Damn you Youtube!
Yeah the real shooters in hiding with Elvis , Micheal Jackson and Epstein ...
Multiple shooter's ??? One armed man? The Devil made me do it? .....no the "devil" is in the detail.
Gee I am glad we are dealing with so many facts..... makes you lose confidence in "fake news". Who can you trust?
Luckily on one eyed eel we have representatives of both sides and the "truth" will come out.
Excuse my fecitiousness but this has run it's course now!........ Hasn't it?
Where is the gun QBoy? Have watched multiple people analyse the footage, one a Marine Recon sniper. All agree he is not carrying a gun in any of the footage and point to how difficult the gun is to break down and reassemble.
A lot of things not adding up but lets not upset your narrative.
Well... speaking of the narritve , the same footage was available of him running on the roof back before the homo / trans / fury / leftie link was made , back on blog #1 and the infamous " recipts " , but we must've missed your conspiracy theories then ? I'd even tossed up the possibility of a " patsy" on my OG thread , but nobody who was convinced he was a , Yea Haww , Trump voting , gun slinging , Deep South loving , yokel , wanted to talk conspiracy then. All of a sudden it's an inside job by " The Jews " 😂😂😂 ( not your words , just the words of the genius's with purple and green hair I'm seeing online)
No conspiracy, just asking if anyone has actually seen him with the gun? I didnt question till I saw others who seemed to be mostly right leaning show that none of the footage show him with the gun. Show me this footage and my questioning will end.
Well I guess if you're trying to get away with a crime , you're probably going to want to conceal the weapon when you're going to exit the crime scene ?
If you could see the gun then he'd likley have been caught in the carpark . Dunno, just my thoughts. I'm not exactly against the idea of conspiracy, however it's convenient they only popped up as soon as the shooters motives seemed clearer. You've got to ask yourself are the same people who were doctoring Trump shirts and the likes now driving the conspiracy theories ?
Let's not forget AI can be used in many ways. It will all come out in the wash eventually. It's not like the Epstein scenario where nobody was around and no footage is available.
QAnon has taken all the fun out of conspiracy theories for me. There is a lot of footage of him coming, entering the building, running across the roof, dropping 12ft from the roof, leaving the campus. No gun. The analyses Ive seen has been from the right, mainly ex military. Im only interested in facts. I get a lot of my info from the moderate right who really have no dog in this fight.
Plenty of witnesses around the Epstein scenario and plenty of footage of Drumpf partying with Epstein.
Release the files!
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