PREAMBLE: Ladies and Gentleman, Super is happy for this discussion to continue if we can remain civil and disagree respectfully, updated as necessary. If not, comments will be removed and if necessary the blog closed and any future Kirk-related blogs closed for discussion.
Part 1, by Wiz (more right leaning)
Part 2, by Prof Daz (more left leaning)
SYNOPSIS: Charlie Kirk spoke his final words at 12:23 p.m. on September 10, 2025, at Utah Valley University, in front of around three thousand people. Tyler Robinson, the 22-year-old alleged shooter of the 31-year-old Republican, remains under investigation. Utah’s governor suggested he may have been radicalized by the Left, though his MAGA-entrenched family and transgender partner complicate the narrative.
The attack shook the United States, exposing deep ideological fractures. Two days later, President Donald Trump concluded that “the radicals on the left are the problem” rather than the radical right who, he said, merely want to “stop crime,” framing the debate in partisan terms during a live Fox News interview. However, voices such as Jack Posobiec and Steve Bannon, speakers at Kirk’s conventions, had long used hard-line rhetoric, calling the Left “demonic” and urging the building of “an army of the awakened.”
History offers a far broader perspective. Abraham Lincoln, Yitzhak Rabin, Mahatma Gandhi, and Martin Luther King Jr. were assassinated by right-wing extremists. John F. Kennedy and Archduke Franz Ferdinand, whose death helped ignite World War I, were killed by left-leaning radicals. A two-way street.
Just months earlier, on June 14, Democrats Melissa and Mark Hortman were gunned down in their Brooklyn home by Vance Boelter, a hard-right evangelical, white Christian who disguised himself as a police officer. Married nearly 32 years, the couple left behind two children. The killings, however, received far less attention than Kirk’s death and did not prompt a presidential call to confront the radical right.
“What do they all share in common? Every political assassination is an attack on the collective; on our ability to disagree without destroying,” an academic observer noted. George Bernard Shaw called it the "extreme form of censorship."
Left or Right isn't the problem in my view. The greater danger lies in the radical mind and in how easily society nurtures the “us versus them” divide. As Desmond Tutu warned, “The moment we divide the world into ‘us’ and ‘them,’ we begin to lose our humanity.”
Charlie Kirk (above and below) is survived by his wife and two children.
Married nearly 32 years, Melissa and Mark Hortman as well as Gilbert, their Labrador (below) leave behind two children.
Boelter who assasinated the Hartmans allegedly kept a hit list of 70 targets, including Democratic lawmakers and even some anti-abortion clinics. The same early morning at 2am he invaded the Minnesota home (above) of the Hoffmans and their children who survived the shooting following surgery.
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If it ain't broke, don't fix it. I have too much emotion attached to this one. Family phots at events, Anzac Day, ADF, Olympics etc. Please wait till i am past.
I hate flags on shirts and merch.
A good poles are where it's at, but in frontyards it weirds me out
Love me a good flag forest
In many ways I agree Randy. I have absolutely no problem with our current flag, and would support it till the day I die. Conversely, if our great democracy decided it was time for something new, I'd be fine with that too. I'm more about what the flag represents, rather than the arbitrary colours or shapes that it actually is.
I also don't have any issue with people wearing it on their shirts, undies, thongs, whatever. It's not something I do, but I have no issue with it.
Agreed Meelk, the things our Flag represents(democracy, egalitarianism and cold beer) are what have me looking at Trump and the USRight and thinking about the fact that I may have to actively defend those things here.
Meelk and Anguilliade, I would be happy with a new flag, but I doubt our contemporary politics could achieve enough social license to change it, or at least to radically change it. I left the union jack off my body decades ago when inking some Australia identity on there, so I reckon any change in the flag might manage ditching the union jack but I am unsure it can too much further, though a sun would not go astray.
The difference Wiz is the widespread vocal public calls now to harm them, after their rights have been established (by us!). They are demonised for everything under the sun. In reality, they cause fuck all damage to anyone else. Believe what you like. Do some of them talk crazy shit? OF COURSE!!! Fuckwits....(bob smith has entered the chat)
LOL, Randy. Subtle.
Wiz, I am not currently fighting for LaLa's rights. It's all talk right now. But if the Right follows through on it's constant "vermin" rhetoric and starts coming for her, well, i will then be coming for them. And i will not be alone
I dunno, I must live in some trans paradise down here where they don't get assaulted , nor abused, and are working in every other shop I walk into .
It's almost as if they're socially accepted and the horrible universe where trans kids daily victims exists purely online generated by the LBGTI political fear mongers. I mean people are coming for La -La ? Really ? Let's hope it's not the Democrats in their white sheets again dragging people away and stringing them up from a tree.
I must live in some trans paradise down here where they don't get assaulted , nor abused, and are working in every other shop I walk into .
So you are telling me..
They are known and accepted in the community, not troublemakers
The shops recieve no more complaints about them than any other young fuckwits that are underpaid and allergic to competent work
They have jobs...productive members of society
They are reliable enough too keep them
They pay PAYE Tax, the worst kind.
Are we just talking about noisy divisive media whores here?...oh yeah, Charlie.Fuck them all. They will end us to line their pockets
You deny your surrounding reality when you get on Christofascist bus
PS... i fucking love the Illawarra
Well yeah, you're right , here in Australia we need to dump the Mardi Gras and anything that promotes the idea that the LBGTI movement are perennial victims , before we hit the levels of the U.S . These movements aren't needed here anymore. You're 1000% spot on.
Because like everything, the U.S is a snapshot of the future of Australia if we continue the path we usually follow.
Our version of Trump will also follow if they keep pushing . You think we will just let khunts like Airbus Albo keep attacking the working class ? It will come. Australia is more divided than I can remember under Airbus.
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