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  Cranky Brad is here!!! February 24, 2022 at 5:57pm

  Everyone is selfish now, no one wants what they just have. The world is turning to crap by the day. Only humans have themselves to blame. 
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  WMD February 24, 2022 at 7:49pm

  It's interesting how supporters of the ethnic cleansing of Palestine, balkanisation of Syria and Libya, the genocide of Yemen, the occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan suddenly turned bastions of "international law", "human rights" and "territorial integrity ".
  • Tad > WMD February 24, 2022 at 8:08pm

    1984 George Orwell

    The Ministry of Truth (had) three slogans: WAR IS PEACE, FREEDOM IS SLAVERY and IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH.

    ‘ “If you want to keep a secret, you must also hide it from yourself.”’

    ‘ “Doublethink means the power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them.”’
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    My Bob > WMD February 25, 2022 at 8:00am

    WMD If this place had a like button, I would like your post a thousand times.  Sometimes I feel like knocking peoples heads together, the blindness, the ignorance, the hypocrisy, arghh! Frustrating! 
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      Wile E. Coyote > My Bob February 25, 2022 at 10:54am

      WMD, is it everyone else demonstrating blind hypocracy and happy ignorance - or are you doing it too. Are you too  happy with the construct of the world you have in your mind to consider changing based on reality and not propaganda. For example, your first cliche "ethnic cleansing of Palestine"

      1. Palestine is a European word. Migrants from the Turkish area formed a quasi state in what is now Gaza and it was called Philistine - a Greek or Hebrew word for wanderer. Philistines and their decendents no longer exist. When Rome conquered Judea/Israel and the Judeans refused to surrender/obey they went apocolyptic on the place and after killing/enslaving most of the population they renamed the region Philistine. Many Judeans ended up other middle eastern countries and Europe and some stayed in Philistine. Philistine was controlled by various powers including the Ottoman empire and then the British. Arabs from the Arab peninsula (Saudi Arabia) did not enter Philistine until recently - about 1000 years ago when they colonised the area and most of the middle east. When the Judean decendents from Europe started returning to Philistine 100-200 years ago they were called Jews. The Judean decendents who had  stayed in the area (no European blood) where called Palestinians. The majority of the Arabs there now followed the European Jewish migration into Palestine from surrounding Arab countries. In 1970, for political reasons the PLO claimed the word Palestine to refer to the Arabs of the area. Prior to then, the term Palestinians refered to the Jews of the area (not the ones returning from Europe).

      2. Looking at the statistics there has been no cleansing of Arabs from what is now  Israel. There has been near total ethnic cleansing of Jews from Palestinian territories and surrounding Arab countries.

      So accusing Jews of Ethnic cleansing Arabs from the area the Jews originally claim from and the Arabs did not is like accusing Australian Aboriginies of ethnically cleansing Europeans from Australia
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        WMD > Wile E. Coyote February 25, 2022 at 6:01pm

        

        Wile E, I did mention above other atrocities committed by different players but you seem to be caught up in the Israeli / Arab one. If you prefer to discuss this particular issue, I always like to tell supporters of Zionism, people like yourself, an important point; yes the Jews do have a claim to the Palestinian land now called Israel but it's not the only claim to the land and it's not even the main claim. The Arabs actually have a greater claim to this land as they have had a longer history of inhabitants and actual residence of Palestine than the Jews did.

        History shows, and this can be backed up by work done by biblical archaeologists, that the period of Israelitism and its dominance in the region equated to about 200 to 250 years. However there where also Jebusites, Canaanites, Philistines and others that have had a rich history on that land. To single out one and then say they have the rightful and only claim of the land is just simply ridiculous. Even more ridiculous is the claim that God gave the land to the Jews!
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  Gaz Nelson February 24, 2022 at 11:29pm

  Yeh you work for any government you quickly realise they are feeding Joe Public tird sangas on a daily basis. 
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  My Bob February 25, 2022 at 8:24am

  You can be sure that what is reported is not the truth, there are games at play. Follow the money, who will benefit from war / conflict, who has benefited in the past. 
  
  

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  • Tad > My Bob February 25, 2022 at 9:22am

    Winners Arms suppliers and Fossil fuel. ( Their last hurrahThose who are loosing maybe should make a statement
  • Tad > My Bob February 25, 2022 at 8:03pm

    Nice input My Bob. Russia and China basically have emerged from poverty fairly recently and as a culture and maybe look at things differently than the West.. Interesting to see if there are any cultural differences with household debt between China, Russia, and the West.