Ladies and Gentlemen,
This site has never been the most endearing to the club or even parts of our own fanbase. A common piece of feedback I receive privately is that some find it too negative or drama-filled, which is why many choose to stay away. At times we clash hard and put each other down, the club, the players, and even Super, who pays for this site out of his own pocket. Some of this could understandably offend players’ families. In conversations I’ve had with people within the club’s hierarchy, the club takes a fairly open-minded view and accepts that it can’t control what others say or think. That’s a mature approach.
That said, I believe the majority of us are good eggs, mean well, even if some are rough around the edges and a small minority hold more extreme views. Over the past decade, I’ve met many wonderful people through this site, some of whom I now count as close friends and have learned a great deal from. You’re a big reason I’m still here and why I care about this community.
If you’re willing, I’d appreciate your thoughts on the direction the site should take. Ultimately, Super will decide, but it’s helpful to understand how people feel, here or privately, on:
- Current affairs and political blogs: Even if personally enjoy them, these often become the most feral and attract extremist views, especially in challenging times. They can flood the site and turn off many who simply want to talk footy, the one thing we all share. Life has enough dramas.
- Moving these blogs to The Cave: Making them members-only may be a win-win, it allows discussions without overwhelming those who’d want to avoid it.
- Any other ideas for improving the site.
Please don’t comment on political, religious or current affairs issues in this blog. This is about improving the site, not saving the world from an apocalypse.
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Poppy this site went downhill as soon as Phil Sim left , While Phil had piss poor standards and judgment when it came to club matters he ran this site in a very fair way and never once pushed his lefty views on here or removed blogs or posts that didn't fall into line with his lefty views. No doubt you remember the good old days on here and all the stoushes many of us had on all subjects , the fact you never had a heart attack during these stoushes is testament to your heart health .
The moderation on this site is basically all about being a apologist for the club and has been for a long time , as fans we have the right to hammer the people who run the club as much as we like especially since their epic failures have given fans so much misery , they never get to face members so forums like this are the only way fans and members can vent .
The site is slowly turning into TCT and no doubt it would be the mods dream of having a blanket ban on criticising the club , a perfect example of this is the recent two bit forum that members had with the club management.
Do you think people who attended this tea party event asked any hard questions? Do you think one person had the foresight to ask Jim Sarantonis a question like why as CEO for last 6 years and having the greatest advantage of any other club CEO in nsw in having the 2nd largest CBD in nsw with $9b dollars worth of property developers and construction companies he has failed failed miserably in tapping into this failed in bringing these people to the club ? No fucking chance .
Do you thnk Super or anyone else at this event ask the simple question of why haven't the people who run the club been able to make Parramatta a attractive destination for players?
Do you think they would ask why they can't bring the best people to the club be or players or staff ?
Do you think they would ask why the club has bottom of barrel standards ?
Do you think they would asked why we have have a epic low standard head of football in Mark O'Neil who has been a epic failure still at the club ? Of course not .
They would of asked question regarding the the type of blue being a bit dark on the jersey or if the hats members received in their members packs can be made from 100% recycled materials .
When it comes to political or social subjects I have no issues with them being banned primarily because the mods will remove what is posted based on what does not match their views and beliefs, if you ask a question that they can't answer in a way that won't suit their narrative it will be removed , if a blog is not going the way that suits the mods narrative it will be removed and we have a long history of this with Super .
Phil Sim was a lefty but he never once removed a blog or post because it did not meet his lefty beliefs , you could actually have a debate with Phil and then agree to disagree but he would not close or remove a blog just because it was not going his way .
Frankie,
If a toddler comes into your home and continually craps all over the floors and walls, nappy-free, the adults have to clean up the mess. That's why some blogs when they go overboard get closed and some of your posts get deleted.
Overall, a very small number of posts overall get deleted in the grand scheme of things (probably 1-2%).
Frankly, if you despise this site so much, Super, me or what the mods do, rather than complain like a broken record player in Victim re-loop, why don't you start your own site or go to Reddit or 4Chan where there is far less moderation.
Haha you obviously don't use reddit , reddit is full of leftists and very moderated unless you post porn , you can post whatever filthy pictures and videos on reddit
Kenny, you're right. I've never used reddit. I heard anything goes on there. Okay, so maybe that's a bad idea then. What about 4Chan?
Fongy, a lot of the points you have raised there are repetitive from you for a long time. We have never been on the same page, other than occasions where we can find common ground.
To be fair most of the people you have criticised whether it be Mark O'Neil or Jim Saratinos I have supported and see no need to change. My support has not been to say they are doing a great job as much as me believing they are doing a job in the circumstances that makes life very difficult for anyone placed in their position.
Jim Sarantinos I think has still alot to offer and given no ready alternatives that will blow things out of the water, i see no reason to underplay his attempts.....I think you misunderstand the political structure of our board with respect that they are not pawns to be kick started like the benevolent Dictators running what we see as the "succesful" clubs. Penrith have broken from that pack and I see us trying to emulate them.
Mon is a different issue and I dont think we know or understand enough about him to be as critical as we have been, if MON has a 5% support base on this site, I would be amongst them, not for the reasons that his critics would have but for the lack of knowledge and understanding we don't understand. I like to support the underdog as you know. You also know I speak my mind so I cannot and do not want to get into Right and Left arguments, I play it the way I see it.
I do support Hoe on a lot of things but I disagree about the Cave, I am personally not a Cave Dweller, so I suspect i will stay out of that one.
Poppy with the utmost of respect as our beef is over , I know exactly how the structure at the club is ant it one of the biggest issues .
Again with respect what have continued to say about Jim and the people who run the club , can you defend or say that I'm wrong when I say they have failed to take advantage of having the 2nd largest CBD and that they have failed to make Parramatta a attractive club for players to join ?
We can't keep accepting failure , you are on your 80s and I hope you and your wife love till 200 and I also hope people your age get to see Parramatta win a comp . But as I have always said , it will no happen with this lot and I will bet on my childrens lives on it .
I can say a lot about Jim and about some of the directors and a lot more in general but I know I will be banned .
The people on here are honest, vitrolic, humerous, insulting, lovable and dumb as dogshit!...Yeah, not a bad joint 'eh...i think I have made single comments that contain all of those elements.
Some of us here are extremely difficult to moderate (re Randy vs Monto the Mod) and the style of sites moderation determines whether I will actively participate. .also, have changed your meds or just had a breakthrough with the Cognitive Behaviour Therapy? Either way, good stuff
Political discussions and religious topics kept this site alive . Ban them at your peril. We've seen how stagnant it gets without them and the hits and clicks speak for themselves. Hence why the chairman hasn't already banned them. We've also seen what happens when he try's to get the cave to be his filter, nobody goes in there since he chased away all the characters with censorship.
There a good reason this is one of the only real independent 1 team dedicated fansite generating decent traffic. Phil always said it was more a social platform than just a league dedicated echo chamber . But 90% of the entertaining contributors have left so why not make it League Unlimted from Temu and just have everyone finding differnt ways to praise the club and call each other merkins.
Mark, I've actually pushed them as much as possible, not ban them, including the Kirk tragedy, so different camps can express their feelings. Are you okay if they are in The Cave, probably with less moderation?
The Cave does not work . Nobody visits and engages. It worked a long time ago. It's been tried and it failed . The cave never ever worked for discussion topics . Only memes and jokes when we had a crew that made it work . It's was a purple patch of members that have left . Who wants to bother posting their opinions when only 10 or 15 other people will read it?
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