Tim Mannah - The facts and the Stats - Eels Blogs

Is anyone else tired of the flack our captain cops? I sure know I am so to paint it in black and white here are tim's stats for the season:

	Minutes	hit ups	metres run	avg metre per hit up	tackle breaks	tackles	offloads	errors	penalties conceded
Round 1	42	14	116	8.3	4	17	2	0	1
Round 2	36	8	64	8.0	0	34	1	0	0
Round 3	45	12	97	8.1	0	37	2	0	1
Round 4	25	12	129	10.8	0	24	0	0	0
Round 5	38	12	95	7.9	0	32	1	0	0
Round 6	38	12	87	7.3	4	27	1	0	0
Round 7	55	17	147	8.6	1	33	1	0	0
Round 8	28	7	60	8.6	2	22	0	0	0
Round 9	41	12	95	7.9	1	29	0	0	0
Round 10	57	19	163	8.6	2	42	1	1	0
Round 11	43	14	99	7.1	0	27	0	1	1
Round 12	45	13	113	8.7	4	28	0	0	0
Round 13	47	10	83	8.3	2	27	0	0	0
Round 14	47	15	160	10.7	3	38	0	0	0
Total	587	177	1508	118.7	23	417	9	2	3
Avg	41.93	12.64	107.71	8.48	1.64	29.79	0.64	0.14	0.21

Comparing to other props in our team:

Fa'aso avg 10.8 tackles, 59.6m, hit ups 6.6, mtr/hu 9.03

Lussick avg 25.48 tackles, 91.47m, hit ups 10, mtr/hu 9.15

Jnr Paulo avg 17.4 tackles, 103m, hit ups 10, mtr/hu 10.3

Terepo avg 16.5, 67.25m, hit ups 7, mtr/hu 9.6

Wicks avg 30.38, 111.15m, hit ups 10.1, mtr/hu 10.94

It should be noted that Mannah has played more games than Wicks this year.

Analysis

Mannah is the second best prop so far this season. As mentioned above he has played more games than Wicks this season. He has provided solid and consistent footy for the year conceding 3 penalties from 14 matches and making 2 errors in that time as well.

Mannah could definitely work on his offload, but granted that is not his role in the team. His role is to provide a solid platform by eating up metres and hitting hard in defence. Mannah isn't the best prop in the competition, but the props who are better than him are either current state of origin reps or international reps, i.e. Bromwich, Tamou, Scott,

For a team like Parramatta who have this year constantly handed over the ball Mannah is a much needed steadying influence and cool head in team that needs leadership.

For those saying his isn't a captain I'd urge you to watch a game. Just because he has the c next to his name doesn't mean Mannah is the captain on the field. Watmough is taking on this role and doesn;t need a bloody C next to his name.

So for the Mannah haters, read the stats, inform your opinion and stop rating on our captain

Many quickly use his lack of leadership (supposedly) to say he is an avge player. Or the other way round to say he doesn't deserve the captaincy. For mine, I know what Mannah brings, very few errors, solid carries, turns up in defence. Happy with that. Players like Lussick still aren't consistent after 3 years. You never know which Darcy will turn up. Or Terepo. I love our front row rotation, Wicks and Mannah are both rock solid and Junior has an error or two in him but gives more impact and second phase opportunity. We don't appreciate some of the more solid players in our side - Hoppa seems to cop a bit, Norman has been better this year, and Mannah. We still have a fair few guys who you don't know if they will hold the ball, offload, or look for a miracle pass - those are the ones we should worry about.

"I turned it off after the 'Captains Challenge' debacle. It was pretty clear what was happening. We can only imagine what was going through the players minds at that time. 6 again Storm. And another 6 again to the Storm. Fuck off."

"I stopped watching after 18-4. I saw the defence was horrendous. We haven't learnt much from the last season. Yes, it is just the first game. In the blink of an eye, we will be in August. A slow start is an inherent issue, and it looks like we…"

"From around the 45th minute to the 72nd minute Storm completed 17 sets to our 3 sets.
The score went from 18-4 to 46-4 in the 66th. Then Simmo was sin-binned.
It's a minor miracle only 6 points were conceded in the last 14 minutes with 12 men.…"

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Speech June 16, 2015 at 9:09pm

Tims play has significantly improved in the last month. He seems to be a least looking to offload and the team is going less one out. This could be fitness or injury related early in the year. He is getting back to the form of his early career.
eelsy June 16, 2015 at 9:51pm

I've never understood the hate for mannah I think he has a go and does the tough stuff every week, I think he isn't captain material but def a great team man.
- FME > eelsy June 17, 2015 at 10:28am
  
  I don't think many here have doubted his ability its his captaincy that worries most.
El patrón MDV June 16, 2015 at 9:55pm

I agree with you eelsy
EelsAgeMe June 16, 2015 at 10:20pm

I think this year is the best I've seen him play. He has changed his running/charging style. He now gets down low and drives with his legs. Allows him to the line harder.
But for all his improvement, I don't see a leader in Mannah. He isn't a great captain.
That's the main reason why people don't like him.
The royal OON June 17, 2015 at 12:01am

The flack is about captaincy not performance he's a solid player . But not captain worthy . Not inspiration and not a leader . Peats should be captain
The French Fullback #1 June 17, 2015 at 12:18am

Many quickly use his lack of leadership (supposedly) to say he is an avge player. Or the other way round to say he doesn't deserve the captaincy. For mine, I know what Mannah brings, very few errors, solid carries, turns up in defence. Happy with that. Players like Lussick still aren't consistent after 3 years. You never know which Darcy will turn up. Or Terepo. I love our front row rotation, Wicks and Mannah are both rock solid and Junior has an error or two in him but gives more impact and second phase opportunity. We don't appreciate some of the more solid players in our side - Hoppa seems to cop a bit, Norman has been better this year, and Mannah. We still have a fair few guys who you don't know if they will hold the ball, offload, or look for a miracle pass - those are the ones we should worry about.
Baka Maru June 17, 2015 at 12:43am

THANK YOU AND THANK YOU AGAIN SIR for enlightening all the knockers out there. Mannah is consistently one of our best performers week in week out and is a reliable team player. His game may not be flashy or overly vocal, but he gets the tough work done by example and is very well liked by all players and staff. By his own admission, he may not be playing as well as when he was regularly making the Blues Origin squad, but he is beginning to rediscover top form in recent times. I might sound defensive here and that's because some players, with or without valid reason, are constantly being admonished by their own fans; and Mannah is one of those genuine 100% triers that doesn't deserve it, as supported by these stats.
1Eyed Eel June 17, 2015 at 1:14am

I've been saying for a weeks now that Mannah is in career best form.
- sixtiesboy > 1Eyed Eel June 17, 2015 at 7:38am
  
  Phil, the same comment has come from inside the team. There is the belief that Tim is in career best form as well as the pride in Wicks form.

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