Personally I think it's a blight on our game.....in my mind if you invite the gambling fraternity in....you also invite match fixing and point fixing in .
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"Except they could also destroy their children's lives and society has to deal with the fallout of that."
"People should be free to destroy their lives.
Can't nanny state everyone."
Can't nanny state everyone."
"Yeah, plus I aint no fool. Sydney Swans is just South Melbourne Swans. They dont represent me or anything to do with my upbringing. Footy was always league and afl was not even a thing."
"Gambling is an evil industry that preys on the vulnerable and Australians lose more per capita by far than any other country in the world.
We are the biggest losers in the world. Not a title we want to win.
It destroys people, families and lives.…"
We are the biggest losers in the world. Not a title we want to win.
It destroys people, families and lives.…"
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Well said Bluey, of the others that have commented on this in such a negative way.....you poor miserable bastards.
Not my go personally. I find it weird my 18 yr old nephew wil place a $50:bet on a first try scorer but cannot afford to put petrol in his car.
Fully against it. Hate poker machines and horse racing as well as the greyhounds. Never gambled in my 57 years and never will because life is a gamble.
Fair enough but that is more a commentary on your nephew not sports betting.
I am not a phsychological expert on the problems of habits. BUT if anybody punts outside their means as in the example that "doors" provides with his nephew it says more about his upbringing and intelligence of understanding money and where it comes from.
Everybody has to work out their own values and responsibilities, otherwise you will start handing out selectable tokins. NT Govt do that with responsible drinking laws....does anyone think that works at a criminal level or 'want ' deterrent?
I started punting when I was 15 and always have bet within my means and selectively what you can and cannot win on. It gave me a tremendous advantage in my banking career, where I could adjudge odds and risk management.
My children and grandchildren have a bet every now and again, not as committed as I am but again no problems.
I will not use poker machines and trying to pick the first try scorer is tantamount to buying a lottery ticket.
Sports betting is the meal ticket for all the sports we love and quiet simply without the income it derives would mean you will be getting up to other vices.
You cannot control the uncontrollable.
Every government or the like that have tried has a "totalarian" shape to it with no fundamental freedom. We experience that at present with the criminal activity in the tobacco industry. If governments worked on lowering the tariffs and concentrated on education, they would have done much better. Of course we all realise it is a money making excise for the government and they couldn't give a stuff about the ramifications. Petrol prices even come into this domain.
Do you think banning sports betting would be any different?
The amount of people who have limited recreation and pleasure persuits are very comfortable in controlling their "flutters". some pensioner out there may bet a few dollars on a saturday and probably lose 3 out of 4 but that win 1out 4 gives them immense pleasure and a little windfall to buy something they would normally not.
The people that say they should save that money and buy something with it miss the point of the "hunt".
The ones that have the addiction have all sorts of controls available through the system, we have all see the anti gambling bullshit after every add and the fact that you can approach any corporate bookmaker and put a limit on your betting.
The key issue is the "want".
I wonder how many of this brigade (anti on here) go to church every week and make a donation to the "sky fairies"
No wait there is nothing wrong with that, people go and give because of their faith and want.
The church gives them a sense of pleasure and maybe hope.....gambling has the same drivers!
hahahahah love it " Sky Fairies". Oh how this place would light up if we were to discuss Religion and the belief in make believe. I wonder how long it will take before worshiping an invisible being becomes redunandant. Centuries more, Millenas "1000's" or even myriannum "10,000's".
Faith is such a powerful tool. Perhaps the most powerful concept ever devised.
William Blake said, ‘The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom.’ I’d add, ‘Or worse.’
In Rat Park, isolated rats self-destructed on cocaine. Socially connected rats chose life, ignoring drugs. It’s far worse for us, as drugs demand payment.
I'm in a BetsWithMates punters club, so it's all very social, controlled and fun within that limit. But I can absolutely see how much problems it creates with people incapable of controlling themselves and how much they bet. I would support a ban and wouldn't care too much about it tbh.
I hate it.
It puts puts the integrity of a game into question.
If you want to fix a match you can manipulate a referee to do it for you they influence the game enough that a few minor calls that guide a result won't be questioned.
Its not just our game Rugby soccer Afl are all ripe for it and it may actually happen.
Plus gambling is a quite addiction that can be hidden till it cant and the government won't stop it cause like smoking they benefit from it.
Gambling is an evil industry that preys on the vulnerable and Australians lose more per capita by far than any other country in the world.
We are the biggest losers in the world. Not a title we want to win.
It destroys people, families and lives. But unfortunately a lot of our sports are heavily subsidised by gambling companies so it's deeply entrenched. Just another way that the wealthy take money from the poor by making them feel like they can "get rich quick".
It needs to be much more heavily regulated...but it won't be. Political donations made to the major parties by gambling lobby groups have surged more than 600% in the past decade - gotta make sure those poor people stay poor so the rich can keep getting richer.
People should be free to destroy their lives.
Can't nanny state everyone.
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