It was the 22 minute mark, when Jordan Riki scored off an Adam Reynolds kick.
Gutherson was caught out of position (as confirmed by Cooper Cronks comentary) Sivo was holding his position & marking up on the wing (as he should) but attempted to get to the ball first in the in-goal (as he should) after the kick was put in.
Riki beats Sivo to the ball and scores. Gutherson so far out of position wasn't even a chance of contesting for the ball.
As soon as the ball was grounded, Gutherson turns and glares at Sivo and by all indications mouths something off to him.
Did anyone else observe this?
Can somebody please do a screen shot of the moment.
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Bert, hundred per cent remember it. Reynolds caught Gutho out of position, and nailed it.
Gutho was also jogging (not sprinting in desperation) and looked like he was mouthing something at Sivo. Wonder if Gutho implied he was too "slow" to stop a backrower etc. Sivo looked a bit puzzled at it all. Not sure the Fox could've stopped that one. Sivo had to turn around and was the only one making an effort.
Do you remember the Manly game, Foran and DCE caught Gutho out of position numerous times as well?
Sure, Gutho tries hard, is super fit, and has been a critical cog for us - but he seems to be quite liable at blaming other, whilst making errors and blunders at critical times. Remember when Staggs bashed Gutho in the tackle dislodging the ball leading to the try. And he couldn't stop Brenko Lee playing soccer to help create the Broncos first try.
Not sure if it's more this year, due to internal issues in the team and its Jeckly-Hyde nature, but it seems to happen quite a bit. I recall moments in the past (it may have been against the Storm or Panthers this year), when he was saving 3-4 tries a game. But, he too seems off-on as well.
Not yet sure if it's my selection bias or if there's something to it with Gutherson. Didn't really like his body language in the presser either, tbh.
Agree HOE & Bert, well said here too HOE. That was really poor from Gutho & he seems to be doing it a lot.
He also doesnt get in and around young players when they make a mistake, noticed with Penisini quite a few times.
Ive been a big fan of Gutho but he was awful last night & has been this season for mine. He was slow to everything, lavked urgency (as you said HOE) in every situation, wasnt backing up in support. He just seems off, like most things with our team right now.
Let's not forget what he called Tom Opacic.
Gutho did the same thing this time last year. He is too involved. I would say the same about Tedesco in S of O 3. I think he overcalls rather then sometimes just being the decoy. This means the outside backs do not get the ball quickly enough. Better to be in the correct position and save some energy. Across the park we also lack pure speed. Seems to me that Melbourne look for speed first and then turn the player into a footballer.
Please !
Gutho is an effort player. First in all the pre season runs, fittest player etc etc. That has been his cornerstone for the majority of his career. I have found this year in particular he is not in sync with the team, he appears to be a metre in pace slower and has a real issue turning quickly. I think his days at no 1 in the modern game is limited. The good fullbacks all have some speed and it is vital. GUTHO is not in the top 10 fullbacks in speed. He has to keep all his other facets of his game up to the top level otherwise it is becoming obvious that he is not delivering. Leadership isnt just being first in 400m shuttle runs in November. It is driving a team down on confidence in July.
Here is the moment, Bert. Doesnt show it overly well in the still but he definitely says something to Sivo here & the body language wasnt great. 100% Guthos fault, Sivo did well to get close.
From personal experience, NOS, that's not the way to go to get the best out of the majority of Fijians/Islander players- Gentle natured and react differently. Do not take criticism and aggression well, if delivered in the wrong way/tone- Wayne Bennett has stated this many times. Sivo face says it all. Not one size fits all with they way a coach or captain should address players. Our captain should know this, by now.
I feel like Gutho never seems to think anything is his fault, half the time he is flopping on the ground appealing for something because he got beat.