The Broncos have plenty of talent, but it's just an unbalanced roster. The problem is that teams like the Dogs, Dragons, Titans & Tigers try to buy their way out of trouble.
There's plenty of untapped talent out there, plenty for expansion, but the bottom 5 or 6 clubs have got to get their act together, because they are letting the rest of the game down at the moment.
Coryn / Scott, you're both right and you're both wrong. There is heaps of natural athletic football talent in the Broncos, BUT, the roster is horribly unbalanced and they are a long way from being a genuine top 8 team. They need to view their growth in terms of addition by subtraction. They need to let Milford, Lodge, Isaako, Croft & Carrigan walk. Hand the keys over to Tom Deardon and let the team grow with him. Move Xavier Coates to fullback,
I'd be getting rid of TPJ straight up. He came on the other night when the Broncos were trying to come off their own line under intense pressure from the Storm. He just handed it off twice in the same set to an outside back who got absolutely pulverised. That sort of shit should not be tolerated.
Brett Allen > Adam MagrathApril 4, 2021 at 10:20am
That is true, and ordinarily I would agree with you, but when a team is struggling they need to start with their offence. If a team can still score points, then at least it keeps them in the game, and honestly, having watched the Broncos so far, pretty much all their best stuff has come off the back of TPJ. Watching the Bulldogs is brutal, because you know as soon as they get behind by 10-12 points it's game over because they simply can't score. They know they can't win because they can't score, so what's the motivation to defend when at best they can lose by a small margin ?
At least TPJ gives them an avenue to score points.
Adam Magrath > Brett AllenApril 4, 2021 at 10:34am
That sort of attitude is contagious though, and when it’s infected your senior playing group (you can add Norman from years gone by, Boyd from last year and Milford still remains) you’ve got massive problems which are not going to get solved by a bit of attacking flair.
I can cop a player that may not possess all the skills but still works hard. What I can’t cop is a show pony bludger with a shithouse attitude.
Brett Allen > Adam MagrathApril 4, 2021 at 11:20am
I'm not saying he's going to be solve their issues, but if I'm trying to rebuild a club I'm looking first at how we can score points. If you can score 20+ a game then you know you're probably going to win 6-10 games a year, which then gives you some confidence. Now obviously to go to the next level you have to be better disciplined and better defensively, but it's awefully hard to find the motivation to defend for 80 mins every week if you can't score points.
Put if this way, if I have a choice between the Broncos & Bulldogs rosters, I know who I'd rather have. The Broncos roster may be unbalanced, but it's got points in it. There are half a dozen CC teams that could beat the Dogs atm, and probably a couple of RM Cup teams as well.
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i think the bootom 4 will be,
16th Manly
15th, Dogs
14th, Cowboys
13th, Broncos
Love it
After these 3 games, I'm thinking not enough elite talent to support any expansion without diluting the product
The Broncos have plenty of talent, but it's just an unbalanced roster. The problem is that teams like the Dogs, Dragons, Titans & Tigers try to buy their way out of trouble.
There's plenty of untapped talent out there, plenty for expansion, but the bottom 5 or 6 clubs have got to get their act together, because they are letting the rest of the game down at the moment.
Agree Brett, there is plenty of talent there at the Broncos, is it an attitude thing?
Cameron Smith would have turned them into a force if he went there, an old head that can lead them in a grind and through tough periods.
Scott
No, this is where your wrong Coryn.
Just because Brisbane are down the bottom it doesn't mean there is no ability there.
Brisbane aren't far off being a very good side.
One or two experienced additions to that team could turn them right around.
Thanks again,
Scott
Coryn / Scott, you're both right and you're both wrong. There is heaps of natural athletic football talent in the Broncos, BUT, the roster is horribly unbalanced and they are a long way from being a genuine top 8 team. They need to view their growth in terms of addition by subtraction.
They need to let Milford, Lodge, Isaako, Croft & Carrigan walk. Hand the keys over to Tom Deardon and let the team grow with him. Move Xavier Coates to fullback,
I think their best team going forward is
1) Coates
2) Oates
3) Farnworth
4) Niu
5) ???
6) Staggs
7) Deardon
8) Haas
9) Turpin
10) Flegler
11) Glenn (c)
12) Riki
13) TPJ
I'd be getting rid of TPJ straight up. He came on the other night when the Broncos were trying to come off their own line under intense pressure from the Storm. He just handed it off twice in the same set to an outside back who got absolutely pulverised. That sort of shit should not be tolerated.
That is true, and ordinarily I would agree with you, but when a team is struggling they need to start with their offence. If a team can still score points, then at least it keeps them in the game, and honestly, having watched the Broncos so far, pretty much all their best stuff has come off the back of TPJ. Watching the Bulldogs is brutal, because you know as soon as they get behind by 10-12 points it's game over because they simply can't score. They know they can't win because they can't score, so what's the motivation to defend when at best they can lose by a small margin ?
At least TPJ gives them an avenue to score points.
That sort of attitude is contagious though, and when it’s infected your senior playing group (you can add Norman from years gone by, Boyd from last year and Milford still remains) you’ve got massive problems which are not going to get solved by a bit of attacking flair.
I can cop a player that may not possess all the skills but still works hard. What I can’t cop is a show pony bludger with a shithouse attitude.
I'm not saying he's going to be solve their issues, but if I'm trying to rebuild a club I'm looking first at how we can score points. If you can score 20+ a game then you know you're probably going to win 6-10 games a year, which then gives you some confidence. Now obviously to go to the next level you have to be better disciplined and better defensively, but it's awefully hard to find the motivation to defend for 80 mins every week if you can't score points.
Put if this way, if I have a choice between the Broncos & Bulldogs rosters, I know who I'd rather have. The Broncos roster may be unbalanced, but it's got points in it.
There are half a dozen CC teams that could beat the Dogs atm, and probably a couple of RM Cup teams as well.