RIght so my brother listens to this bloke regularly and told me to listen to it as he agrees with the positional changes they mention for Parramatta, but the way they are talking about the club is so ill-informed and agenda driven it does my head in.
*mentioning how Arthur is not at fault and Penrith took more than 5 years to get where they are at. Right it's been 8 years and their juniors improved each year ours are not apart from Mahoney.
*The loss on the weekend was not on coaching. Really? really? well not 100% of it wasn't no but coaching was a part of it, you're telling me Oldfield doing the same thing as Dunster a week prior of running of his wing and jamming was instincts of both players? it's their tactics.
*They need a start player and he has done well getting where they are with this squad. RGC, Mahoney, Paulo, Papali'i, Matterson & Brown, that is a killer forward pack including 3 origin players (1 constant) 1 back-up origin hooker, Matterson who was 18th man in origin and Papali'i (granted Arthur got him going) one of the best back-rowers of 2021, Gutherson, Moses origin players, fergo origin player in past. I understand we need a Tedesco/Trbojevic type player, but re-signing Cartwright and Stone aint going to get you there, this squad is his having Jakob Arthur and his rouse hill friends demonstrates he's had say in the squad and junior base compared to Kent on 360 who says he has hardly any, Watmough, Foran, Gower, Hasson? all ex-Manly boys he brought along with him. This is his squad give or take a few players he was given and is not producing the goods, different to cleary.
*Mentioning Cleary hasn't won a comp yet everyone is ok with him, yes Finch but you see Cleary has two of his teams to what is called a Grand Final? even getting the Warriors from 8th to a GF, a Warriors team you would say is worse than ours right now yet he got them there, Arthur can barely get us a semi's win. So comparing to Cleary is rubbish, yeah he might be same of never being able to win a premiership but at least has been to a GF.
*Saying the club leaked Gutherson's contract talk, even saying as a team they should say to Gutho "if your agent does what he did last time again we are not offering you a deal" or even saying the club should say Ayoub is the issue and he leaked it etc. The club cannot do that last part, if they do Gutherson may walk all together and will piss off the playing group more than if you sit with Gutherson and cannot come to an agreement. Ayoub writing that he decided to stopped negotiations til the end of the year showed him trying to be the better person and cover up that he did storm out trying to get a response over the club treating Gutho badly hoping they can strong arm them, even acting like it happened over a weekend when it happened in May???? Even Kent said Gutho was a fool for not knowing what Ayoub is doing so he could do anything he likes.
Look honestly this video just enraged me as im not sure if it is Kemp who runs it feels if i badmouth anyone they wont come onto my show and i wont get views? but this was badly done and their defence for Arthur, which i feel is fine if you can justify it, they didn't justify. They treat Arthur as if he is in year 3 or 4, even saying Bellamy took 3 years before his first GF which i laughed at so hard i nearly crash my car upon hearing that. Bellamy took 3 years of his career to get to a gf, Arthur is in year 8 and can't get past 2nd week? makes sense yeah good work guys.
Anyway will probably get some hate for the stuff said but oh well it is a part of blog life, just don't be too harsh on me as i listened to this crap and wrote about some things so you guys don't have to.
Here is the link if you want your ears to bleed, scroll along and it'll show you where they discuss Parramatta. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtNY-LBBDbI
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The loss of the reserve grade/CC competition for 2 years has certainly not helped the eels either. The 2019 season was perhaps where things started to come good, but the lower grade/reserves were still under the control of Wentworthville, in affect that has knocked the pathways future out completely.
Some of the players who are underage, have gone to other lower grade teams, but I think I read the NRL had killed off those as well as each of the Jnr comps this year.
Though this didn't effect Penirth or Melbourne or Souths
everyone is in same boast as us
im sorry BE, I respect you as writer here but I disagree with saying the first 5 years do not count, hope you respect my decision to disagree as I really do. He bought players he wanted except for 2014, 2016 was his big year of recruitment with Watmough in 2015 starting it, his Manly connection helped that so I'm not sure how people can say he hasn't had a hand in recruitment. Our juniors are getting better each year since 2019 I agree, but I'm over people saying he doesn't have a say in recruitment or doesn't get what he wants when his son and Rouse hill boys are in the programs that's not coincidence
im not disagreeing with the Penrith call, I'm disagreeing with Cleary call, he has been to two gfs in oht two different teams that's different
The only fans defending Arthur are either his close relatives or fans who ride unicorns
No BE I'm not saying you are saying that I'm saying others are like Paul Kent for example
i agree he is a good nrl coach and will get another job and if anything I feel him going elsewhere will be better for him and he has made us relevant just feel it's time for change and different views but I feel BA won't win a comp with us and we won't win one with him
Will he or us win one without each other? Who knows but I think we can't win one together, I'm in belief of 8 years counts but in that 2016 and 14 to be fair are hard to judge on but yeah I'm not thrilled with him atm but do say he's has been great for us and should be remembered as one of our better coaches just now time for a change for both parties.
I'm not like sucking up to you or trying to make you happy and that, just am a believer in if people have an opposite view at least have legit reasons to those views, if you do than i am in my right to disagree but i wont lose respect as they are not agenda driven it is what they believe and believe for the better.
Same with politics, Im liberal my fiance is labor, i live with it as she has reasons to vote them other than "i hate Scomo" which she doesn't but if you have your reasons then i respect that as you have put thought into it. As my dad would say "if we all agreed, the world would be a boring place"
His son and friends are in the team because they won the State schoolboys comp. Same reason Cleary and his friends are at Penrith. Also in the Year Parramatta lost there points they would have once again been in the finals.
Yeah but Arthur would've had a say or even said to the club he wants them. That's what im referring to, same as Ivan bringing Nathan to Penrith and Flanagan bringing Kyle to Cronulla
John Lang had Martin at both Cronulla and Penrith.
Just Paul Kent says Arthur doesn't get final say on recruitment but the fact they signed a few players including his son who he coached at Rouse Hill shows he has some say.
Not saying it is a bad thing he signed them by any means.
It astounds me that you keep defending this guy like he is a saint.
He came here after Ricky cleaned the club out and virtually started with a clean slate.
He has signed massive failures like Beau Scott, Anthony Watmough, Kieran Foran, Mitchell Moses and Michael Jennings just to name a few.
Won us a Wooden Spoon in 2018.
Has a final record of 1 win from 6 games.
And, yet you still find excuses for this pretender.
Scott
Send me a link to prove your facts as Arthur has publicly shouldered the blame for it.
Last time I asked for a link you ignored my request.
Warm cheers,
Scott
And you don't believe it was a political report to sugar coat/turn blame away from virtually anyone that was at the club.
Brad wants control, total control to be honest, he had it and it proved how much of a pea brain footy head he has just like you've got.
Warmest Cheers,
Scott
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