Foran and Norman

Not a great game in attack for the halves. Better than last year but two points:1. We still seem desperate to score. When you are desperate you are much less likely to score. The best teams are not trying to score all the time. The focus on dominating and wearing down the opposition. Then, when their opposition is worn down they put on there set plays and they usually just get there instead of failing against a performing defence. We had plenty of opportunity to force a line drop out but did not get one. Our focus should be on retaining possession and wearing down the opposition.2. We have chosen Foran. Is Norman the best type of player to complement Foran's skill set or do we need a half that has excellent attacking kicking skill. Foran did not get a preseason and maybe we just need to wait.

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  • I think they did well in the Doggies game, especially in wearing the forwards down and just let Semi's explosiveness take over. We just need to wait for this attacking combo to set and grow.
  • I think we do miss Sandow a touch in our set plays on the line. Neither Norman or Foran have the acceleration he did, and it means the defensive line can a) slide and cover our shift, and b) the edge defenders can get up fast and shut it down. 

    I have hardly seen us get outside teams on our left, and that isn't Jennings or Semi's doing. Jennings is under pressure every time he gets the ball as the defence is up quickly on him. Sandow would take off fast when he caught the ball and release to Norman, who had an overlap and simply had to pick out Robinson, Taka or Semi to finish it off. At the moment, we are relying on Norman throwing a pearler of a pass, and the defence to make a mistake, as the overlaps just aren't there as much. You can see it from how we have scored our tries, only 1 (Gutherson, Rd1) was us getting outside a team. The others have been us playing through teams with short balls and barge over tries (Peats, Edwards, Taka in Rd 2, Semi x2 vs the Bulldogs in Rd 3,  Jnr vs Tigers in Rd 4. )

    Gordon needs to add more but he also doesn't have that acceleration off the mark that previous players did. I'm not saying we should have kept Sandow or Robbo, but there is a noticeable difference in our attack on the edges without them. It lacks a bit of speed and the defence has more time to shut us down. 

    • We miss Sandow like a hole in the head.
    • I wish you would go down to training and sort it all out because obviously the coaching staff have no idea according to you mate .PS dont forget to take relevant paperwork with you,coaching certificates and achievements .
    • Here's a fun challenge... Has Sandow ever played in an NRL game that has been a shutout in defense (on the winning team)?
      Ricky?
  • No doubt they were both poor on the weekend but thats how footy goes.

    Interesting you bring up line drop outs, without seeing any stats it seems our line drop out rate has been deplorable under BA, we were shocking at it last year and nothings changed, why are we so bad at applying pressure to get a repeat set, its one of my pet hates.

    BA needs to really sort this out imo, repeat sets are a huge part of the game.

    • Foran was bought to fix this and has been really poor IMO. The kicks aren't actually getting to the in-goal. It's like theyre mis-kicking them or something, because at the moment it looks like we are barely kicking the ball and it goes about 2m before someone dives on it. Same last week against the Dogs too. When you have Jennings in your side the grubber kick needs to be a go to play if nothing is on, let him use his speed, but the ball has to be in-goal. Maybe we're scared of the 7 tackle set if it goes dead? The "better a bit long than short" probably is negated by the 7 tackle set threat if it goes dead but I still think at least give us a chance to score/get a repeat set though instead of shanking it a metre into someone's leg?

  • Norman is SHIT. When are you turkeys gonna realise this. We have gone forward for 3 reasons only. Our forwards are pretty damn good at the moment. Defence is exceptional, & foz is why we're going forwards. This guy attacks a line at pace. Not fucking about like norman. Don't see any raves about him. Leave it to foz, he'll lead us.
    • Obviously missed watching the nines this year Dunc?

    • Geez Duncan, I have obviously been watching different games to u mate. IMO Norman has really matured & last season I thought he was one of our best.

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