Check the rule: Moses pass was fair.

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The rule is up the top. The ball must be behind Moses, assuming Mosis keeps moving forward at the same speed as when he passed it. The ball is behind Moses when it is caught, and Moses has collected a defender in the meantime, so he has slowed if anything. It has to be a fair pass.

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  • It's a fairly forward pass. However, consideration has to taken regarding the incident where Moses was held back which stopped him defending in a try to the cowboys. So at the end of the day it's even

  • Who cares now tbh?

    It's done but like PT47 says it's all swings and roundabouts.

    The cowboys got away with a few dicey ones IMO also so in the end I think the better team ended up winning.

     

  • You've misread the rule completely. What  the rule means is that you look how  at the ball comes out of the hands before the effect of inertia. Moses threw it slightly forward out of his hands - it was a forward pass. But I've seen worse let go so whatever move on. 

    The pass from Holmes to Tulaugi also came out of the hands forward 

    • The "comes out of the hands" measure is an on-field proxy for the actual rule, because the rule is hard to judge on the run in real-time. The official rule doesn't mention hands at all.

      • Yes but the rule also doesn't say anything about the passing player needing to be in front of the ball, which seems to be what you are basing your interpretation on.

        • Yes, it does say that. "The direction of a pass is relative to the player making it..." .

          • Yes, and the interpretation of that would be based on the point when the player passes it, not what happens in the time after that point. Using your logic if a player passes flat and then runs backwards it's a forward pass.

            • Almost. You are right, it doesn't matter what the passer of the ball does afterwards. What we want to know is how fast was he going at the time he passed the ball. If he is standing still, then his speed is 0 metres per second towards the opposition goal line so the ball must actually go backwards, say at  1 m/sec towards his own goal line ( -1 m/sec in the direction of the opposition goal line) . But if he is going, say, 2 m/ sec towards the opposition goal line and the ball travels at only 1 m/sec towards the opposition goal line, it is still a fair pass. That's what they mean by relative, 

              So if the passer is still moving forwards at about the same speed after they pass the ball then to check if it is a fair pass we check if he has travelled further towards the goal line than the ball during the pass. Moses did that. I reckon he was going about 2 to 3 m/sec forwards - because after about 1 sec after he passes (when Papilii catches it)  he his about 2m further downfield, but the ball was going maybe 0.5 m/ sec forwards by the same reasoning.

              • PS

                Sorry to be a pain . I am a physics teacher as well as a mad Parra supporter. I will shut up now. 

                • @theflyingwedge , if we are 20 in front with 5 minutes to go I hope the boys put on the flying wedge as a tribute to our 1976 Grand Final. Wouldn't mind seeing the Reynolds/Quayle move either.

                   

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