Seems that the indigenous people of Australia ( A particular Tribe) are looking to claim a large proportion of Melbourne as native title so they can make sure the region is looked after correctly. The Waterways, native lands etc..Is this ok and do you think that it affect people that live there or businesses as such. I'm ok for areas of Australia being looked after but not sure if this will help or not. An excerpt from the News Article:
The Wurundjeri Woi-wurrung people in Victoria have filed a native title claim with the Federal Court, seeking recognition over country that spans much of Melbourne.
Wurundjeri Woi-wurrung elder Perry Wandin said the claim was part of an intergenerational pursuit for his people's connection to their land to be recognised.
"Wurundjeri people have fought for decades for recognition and respect and have been at the forefront of protecting culture and country in Melbourne and surrounds," Elder Perry Wandin said.
"We want the waterways, the land to be looked after."
The Wurundjeri Woi-wurrung claim area covers most of metropolitan Melbourne, beyond the Great Dividing Range, west to the Werribee River, east to Mount Baw Baw, and south to Mordialloc Creek.
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My great-grandmother died in 1990 aged 95. Born 1885. She only missed colonization by one lifetime and a bit. Aboriginals were heavily repressesed and slaughtered. Specifically prevented from voting till 1965. Languages suppressed, children removed.
That is persecution, and not long ago. The effects of persecutionon on whole populations linger for many generations. This is known
We are offering reparations for persecution. Seems fair to me
In that case, anyone from a low socioeconomic background is suffering the lingering effects of persecution. Focusing on the rights of minority populations is a distraction from dealing with class based injustice. Which is exactly why elites are all in support of this sort of thing.
I don't mean to be rude Pou, but that whole comment is hot garbage..anyone from a low socioeconomic background is not suffering the effects of persecution on a whole population. In Australia, only Aboriginals have claim to that
We can walk and chew gum at the same time
People from low socioeconomic background are a whole population. Thats how class works. A good Marxist like you should know that.
They are a cohort...yeah and a population. I misspoke. I should have called them a people...No they are A population...the Original One. First Nations. Those who Wik and Mabo proved had a valid claim form their own class. The bottom class. They were told they were not people Terra Nullis was proven false by our highest courts and those affected by it (ie Aboriginals) are due whatever reparations the law sees fit to offer
Does that help?
Lower classes only get reparations by revolution. You call me a marxist for supporting Australian law???That would make you a revolutionary, PouPou Guevera
Everyone says lefty this n that....Native title, as reqd by Wik and Mabo decisions is bipartisan legislation.
Of course it has support from bipartisan elites. I already told you elites support any distraction from class based injustice.
Judiciary, Both sides of Gov, and a good chunk of Australians. It isn't up for argument or debate, just like any other High Court finding. It is what it is. To overturn it you need to put on that PouPou Guevera mask or build a Guillotine. I will even join up!
We can't whinge the decisions away, and we ain't gonna kick off a revolution over it, so get on with life
No Randy, there is growing class consciousness in the West, and the tokenistic social projects supported by Western elites are coming under increasing scrutiny. A more diverse looking elite isn't the 'social justice' aggrieved working class Westerners are voting for.
I read this book recently Caste: The Origins of Our Discontents by Isabel Wilkerson. It is enlightening.
It is American, but applies to us as well
I am with you on the whole class thing...but you are aiming your boot at Australias' lowest "Caste"
Viva the revolution
Randy,
Like you, at first this “Melbourne” claim seemed a head-shaker.
Reading the blog, I half-expected the city to be annexed by didgeridoo militia and the world to end.
But apparently not a single property or patch of land will be seized. From what I can tell, it’s about recognising that some scraps of Crown land, some rivers, maybe the odd duck sanctuary have meaning older than the bitumen now smothering them, and have a "connection" to Indigenous people and a "say" in how some are managed.
Even if a few of us bull-horned revolutionaries decided to storm Parliament House, crying Down with Lefties and the Global Elite! naked with firecrackers, or electrostatically charging tin-foil hats, it wouldn’t end well. Nor overturn the High Court’s Mabo (92) decision or the Native Title Act (93) that followed.
In the grand scheme, Australia’s about on par with the US on Indigenous recognition, maybe a touch better, as we’ve passed the Apology Stage but not yet reached the Treaty Stage. New Zealand, Canada, and a few Scandinavian or European nations are already in the grown-up paperwork phase. That’s probably where we’ll end up too, one day. Like it or not.
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