Hell On Eels > Nightmare Off-SeasonMay 25, 2026 at 8:24am
NOS, We just lost Keaon. Bon Voyage.
$1.05m for five is overs for Dylan – but if Ryles is desperate – deal.
Naturally, the only way Dylan would forgo the Knights extra $8m is to sack everyone and use O'Sullivan's scorcery and Richo's year-by-year PO wizardry.
So if we can't attract top tier talent what else is there but to over pay or wait until,an opportunity presents itself which is shrinking by the day with another 2 teams in the mix.
Do we have choice yes we do we can stick to our guns and quickly lose out yet again or do we swing for the fence and go for it.
Tick Tok Moses is on the clock if we wait for the opportunity that may eventually present itself is he done by that time if we aren't forcing the issue.
JR has said winning starts now not in 2-3 years when Moses is well into his back 9.
For me if your talking recruiting since about 23 we've missed the mark,when we've really needed to land the necessary we've come up short injury has exposed it because not only have we failed at the mentioned but our depth isn't there either so we are getting exposed.
Maybe MoN is doing the best he can maybe he is but is it good enough is the team as currently constructed with the mentioned constraints good enough to take us foward confidently I doubt it.But if Jim Matt and co believe it is so be it and there's no will for change then we get what we get.
NoS framed it well why bother getting Moses to remove his options if this is what he's got to look foward to.I mean the clubs doing everything it can to win right.We've basically pissed a way the mentioneds last 3 seasons bottom feeding.
A lot of great points & questions in there, Coryn.
Poppa > Nightmare Off-SeasonMay 25, 2026 at 9:16am
How are you NOS, good to see everyone in there getting their hands dirty.
I am in agreement with Coryn....we need to bite the bullet....but still be selective in what you know and do....big hunking middles are appearing, one in Melb, one at Warriors and others across the spectrum, want to pay rediculous sums, go Fraser-Harris and try and break his contract with a 1.5m take it or leave it offer, Warriors will not want to or will not lose him (don't worry they won't let it happen), after that stunning offer (which we lose) go for Amatual (sp) their no 16 off the bench and break him free at 500....if he is good as I think he could be he will be worth twice that before Moses gets a grey hair (their coming).
Finally we should be prepared to offer 1m (if it takes that much) to free Burton.....we know exactly what we are getting and he will be a perfect backline anchor starting at 5/8 for the next 5 years. WE need to tighten that backline defence and Burton does that and we also have the best/2nd best kicker in the game and a 5/8 that can score a try from anywhere. Contary to what everyone thinks, he is also a leader, the perfect foil for Moses.
One final pickup I would go for is Xerri, since his comeback I have not been impressed in comparison to what his potential was before his experiment in the world of Cronulla's physcadelic period.....he is showing me now that he is starting to come free, he is running with that smooth excelerated action that he showed as a kid (I thought he looked a potential Reg Gasnier.... btw for the unwashed Gasnier was the greatest centre that ever lived). I believe that a "overs" offer would land him.....like anyone that I have mentioned none of these players will come for unders or market....they will all need to be paid overs or very good TPA's which they could be wary of unless the TPA is well known and respected.
Its a time for this big slumbering giant to drop his balls and start some FIFO characteristic's i.e Fit In or Fcuk OFF!
Oh just remembered Shiva from Broncs, grab him at 450/500.....Broncs are 300 shy of the 600 his manager is asking.
Pops, very well thanks, how are you & the shoulder?
I agree with everything you've said, it feels like it's time to take our shot. I'm not as big on Burton as yourself, but 100% respect what you're saying & agree he'd bring a lot - plus, 5/8th market is very bare. I'm with you, would like to see him at Parra.
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NOS, We just lost Keaon. Bon Voyage.
$1.05m for five is overs for Dylan – but if Ryles is desperate – deal.
Naturally, the only way Dylan would forgo the Knights extra $8m is to sack everyone and use O'Sullivan's scorcery and Richo's year-by-year PO wizardry.
At least we get a deal. One. Finally. Pheww.
No way just a plodder. Saints needs this type of forwards. Tonga moves like a giraffe with broken legs.
So if we can't attract top tier talent what else is there but to over pay or wait until,an opportunity presents itself which is shrinking by the day with another 2 teams in the mix.
Do we have choice yes we do we can stick to our guns and quickly lose out yet again or do we swing for the fence and go for it.
Tick Tok Moses is on the clock if we wait for the opportunity that may eventually present itself is he done by that time if we aren't forcing the issue.
JR has said winning starts now not in 2-3 years when Moses is well into his back 9.
For me if your talking recruiting since about 23 we've missed the mark,when we've really needed to land the necessary we've come up short injury has exposed it because not only have we failed at the mentioned but our depth isn't there either so we are getting exposed.
Maybe MoN is doing the best he can maybe he is but is it good enough is the team as currently constructed with the mentioned constraints good enough to take us foward confidently I doubt it.But if Jim Matt and co believe it is so be it and there's no will for change then we get what we get.
NoS framed it well why bother getting Moses to remove his options if this is what he's got to look foward to.I mean the clubs doing everything it can to win right.We've basically pissed a way the mentioneds last 3 seasons bottom feeding.
A lot of great points & questions in there, Coryn.
How are you NOS, good to see everyone in there getting their hands dirty.
I am in agreement with Coryn....we need to bite the bullet....but still be selective in what you know and do....big hunking middles are appearing, one in Melb, one at Warriors and others across the spectrum, want to pay rediculous sums, go Fraser-Harris and try and break his contract with a 1.5m take it or leave it offer, Warriors will not want to or will not lose him (don't worry they won't let it happen), after that stunning offer (which we lose) go for Amatual (sp) their no 16 off the bench and break him free at 500....if he is good as I think he could be he will be worth twice that before Moses gets a grey hair (their coming).
Finally we should be prepared to offer 1m (if it takes that much) to free Burton.....we know exactly what we are getting and he will be a perfect backline anchor starting at 5/8 for the next 5 years. WE need to tighten that backline defence and Burton does that and we also have the best/2nd best kicker in the game and a 5/8 that can score a try from anywhere. Contary to what everyone thinks, he is also a leader, the perfect foil for Moses.
One final pickup I would go for is Xerri, since his comeback I have not been impressed in comparison to what his potential was before his experiment in the world of Cronulla's physcadelic period.....he is showing me now that he is starting to come free, he is running with that smooth excelerated action that he showed as a kid (I thought he looked a potential Reg Gasnier.... btw for the unwashed Gasnier was the greatest centre that ever lived). I believe that a "overs" offer would land him.....like anyone that I have mentioned none of these players will come for unders or market....they will all need to be paid overs or very good TPA's which they could be wary of unless the TPA is well known and respected.
Its a time for this big slumbering giant to drop his balls and start some FIFO characteristic's i.e Fit In or Fcuk OFF!
Oh just remembered Shiva from Broncs, grab him at 450/500.....Broncs are 300 shy of the 600 his manager is asking.
Pops, very well thanks, how are you & the shoulder?
I agree with everything you've said, it feels like it's time to take our shot. I'm not as big on Burton as yourself, but 100% respect what you're saying & agree he'd bring a lot - plus, 5/8th market is very bare. I'm with you, would like to see him at Parra.
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