UK unsafe for the Fong

From memory the BBC was what inspired 1984's double talk. Interesting that to be punished the hate does not have to be proven - the victim just has to perceive it as hate. Also only seems to apply to behavior contrary to left wing norms. I doubt vilifying Trump supporters would be a hate crime.

story from Breitbart below

UK Proposes Six Year Prison Sentences for Online Posts Against Religion, Transgender

People promoting “hostility” towards a religion or the transgendered online could get much harsher sentences, of up to six years in jail, especial if they have a large online audience according to new proposals.

The Sentencing Council for England and Wales has drafted changes to public order offences, including anyone perceived as targeting online a “protected characteristics” including “race; sex; disability; age; sexual orientation; religion or belief; pregnancy and maternity; and gender reassignment.”

The most severe punishments will be handed to those “in a position of trust, authority or influence and abuses their position to stir up hatred,” such as political leaders or figureheads and anyone whose offences are “persistent.”

If an “offender was a member of, or was associated with, a group promoting hostility based on race or religion,” their sentence will also be harsher.

“Volumes of these offences are extremely low and there have been no offenders sentenced for some offences,” the Sentencing Council said.

“However, given the recent social climate and an enhanced focus on this type of offending, the council considers it would be useful for sentencers to be equipped with guidance on sentencing these offences,” they continue.


BREAKING: YouTuber 'Count Dankula' Found Guilty in 'Sh*tposting' Case by British Court http://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/03/20/youtuber-count-dankula-found-guilty-in-shtposting-case-by-british-court/ 

YouTuber 'Count Dankula' Found Guilty in 'Sh*tposting' Case by British Court

Scottish YouTube personality Count Dankula was found guilty at Glasgow Sherrif Court Tuesday of a hate crime.


Adding: “Among the cases analysed there were a number of ‘hate speech’ type offences, where inflammatory speeches were given by influential figures with the intention of stirring up racial hatred.

“Other cases involved publication on YouTube of content inciting serious violence towards particular racial or religious groups, websites being published including abusive and insulting content, with some activity continuing over a long period of time and intended to reach global audiences.”

The proposals will now be subject to a three-month public consultation ending in August.

The launch comes nine months after the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) promised toperuse online “hate crime” as vigorously as those taking place face-to-face, saying they hope to see more prosecutions, with longer sentences for those convicted of “hate” online.

Separate “hate crime” guidelines from the CPS released in January last year reaffirmed that no evidence is needed to report a “hate crime”, and they only need to be “perceived” by the alleged victim or someone else.


‘Dislike’ and ‘Unfriendliness’ Can Be Hate Crimes, UK Police Confirm
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/10/25/dislike-unfriendliness-hate-crimes-uk-police-confirm/ 

‘Dislike’ and ‘Unfriendliness’ Can Be Hate Crimes, UK Police Confirm

Guidelines insist a hate crime must be driven by “hostility", but many police forces are unable to give a definition of “hostility”.


An investigation by Breitbart London last year also confirmed that many UK Police forces consider “unfriendliness” and “dislike” as signs of “hostility” and “hate,” with the CPS admitting there is “no legal definition” of “hostility.”

Germany recently went further than any Western democracy in efforts to control online speech, legally requiring social media companies like Facebook and Twitter to quickly remove “hate speech” from their sites.

However, the law is set to be revised following evidence that too much online content is being blocked, and critics claiming there was a widespread “chilling effect” on speech.

The legislation has led to satirical posts being removed and a leader of the populists AfD party being censored for criticizing police policy and Islam.


Ministry of Truth: UK Govt to Set up 'Rapid Response' Fake News Unit

British Prime Minister Theresa May is to agree to the creation of a “rapid response” government unit to fight perceived "fake news"


Ministry of Truth: UK Govt to Set up 'Rapid Response' Fake News Unit

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  • I’ve got to wonder here if those of you citing anti-hate-speech efforts as Orwellian doublespeak have ever actually read Orwell’s 1984? I guarantee you the writers for Breitbart have not.
    Just got the record, Orwell based 1984 on Zamyatin’s earlier book ‘We’. Zamyatin was a Russian dissident and We was a dystopian novel in which freedom because the enemy of the totalitarian State. No coincidence that in 1984 that is the basic theme, of freedom as the enemy of the State. And if you somehow still don’t get it, what is the driving plot point in both novels? In both novels the protagonist sees a woman appear wherever they are and grow suspicious, but eventually fall in love with her, but the totalitarian State cannot handle people being free to love as they choose and go about their business unhindered by prejudice. So in each novel the protagonist is subjected to mental manipulation to make them feel suspicion rather than love.
    Hello Brietbart and modern extreme right wingers, hell bent on suspicion rather than love. It’s a no brained that Orwell would have considered all Brietbart news items doublespeak personified.
    You’re free to hate. Just don’t think Orwell is your ally!
    • So you are denying that room 101 was named after a conference room at the BBC

      • No, Wile, I am not. I am pointing to the bigger picture Orwell was discussing. Are you denying the bigger picture about the nature of freedom Orwell was discussing?

    • BTW I have read 1984 and recommend it as a classic.

      It seemed obvious to me long before Breitbart picked up on it that the leftists where very similar to Big Brother.

      BTW again, I am not a right winger. I have socialist ideals. I am just appalled by the left wing lies and hate. Big brother or a fundamentalist extreme religion are close resemblances of what the left has become.

      I like Breitbart because it presents a different view to the MSM echo chamber full of blatant lies

      I like Donald Trump because he is not part of the political establishment (left or right) and does not follow their wrong dogma.

      Agree or disagree with them but they are both a breathe of fresh air

      • Wile, I recall a few other things you have said before that lead me to take you at your word that you have social ideals. And I bet I share your concerns that some on the Left lose the plot with extreme identity politics. But finding Brietbart a breath of fresh air suggests those socialist ideals now don’t seem to include the concern with the equal dignity of people that should never be forgotten by socialists. 

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      • Heh Wile, next time you’re trying to say Brietbart ain’t right wing, why don’t you ask Snake why he liked the deux vult meme. You know, the one xenophobic bigots have been using. THAT’s not extreme enough for you?!

  • LOL What a disgrace, 

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