Is that Holbrook, I mean what he has done there, he was in the mix at the eels....
Look, I like ryles, and think he will succeed at the eels, but can't help thinking what could have been if we had got him.
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He would have not succeeded here with incompetent fks we had running the joint. Ryles would too win a comp at Newcastle due to the players he would be given. Meanwhile Mark O'Neil phone still running off the hook after missing out on 50 players.
What is with the mood swings PF? You go from we should sign this bloke and this bloke and this bloke, to they are useless etc. just cause Newcastle got to a GF? Good on Newcastle, just shows the reality check of what a good coach can do actually.
Our roster has a lack of talent, probably the least amount of talent out of any team in the competition. Holbrook wouldn't have won many more games then Ryles has
Whoever the next CEO is needs to nail the R&R department otherwise we are in trouble
So you think Ryles could've done what he's done this year with Newcastle's team ?
Not quite, Holbrook has more experience, both in the Super League and with the Titans.
Ryles can be, and I think will be, a good coach, but we probably won't see his true potential until his third or fourth season at the top level.
Holbrook could've squeezed one or two more wins this season with pure experience alone but that wouldn't have been enough to make the top 8
To be fair we did sound him out. He just politely told us no . Big part of this being how we finished Arthur after Holbrooks Titans exit. Wounds were still fresh and our administration didn't leave him feeling overly confident . In his shoes you can't blame him, why would a coach come to a club who just axed their coach in the same fashion as he'd just been axed?
Take it or leave it , he was lightly asked and he didn't want any part of our management or how they did business.
Fair reply Wiz. Makes sense.
Yeah by memory his polite reply was that Uncle Nick had thrown him a lifeline and he owed it to him to repay him. Which is partly true. But it went deeper than that.
Either way , our guys didn't pursue him any harder after he politely dcelined. Hindsight's a wonderful thing, but realisticly they shoud've been knowledgeable enough to know he's a coach with a huge future and pursued harder. He was sitting as an assistant FFS. Totally free and available for an NRL gig.
And we thought Hannay or Ryles were the better options to pursue hard. Why ? Because they were easy.
It is odd though, as yeah to some, the way BA was ousted might not have looked good (personally i felt differently). But with news that Ryles might get an extension before his third year shows as a club we give coaches some time. We at the moment do not seem to have a board that makes coaching changes after 2-3 years. Can be good and bad at the same time.
But Holbrook maybe would have had time had he came to Parra. But then again, Newcastle is an amazing fit. Gold Coast look more foolish as they had him in the building.
Firstly congratulations Wiz on your mate getting a just award, certainly he must get named coach of the year at the Dally M's on wednesday night.
I don't think the discussions on our choice of coach is justifiable, even with hindsight, shit Bennett got Souths last year with similar injury issues and ran accordingly, this year with a fitter, better side he still fell to Holbrook. Does that make Holbrook a better coach than Bennett?. Bennett did not have a vision for Parramatta, Holbrook had been around Parra long enough to be able to create a vision, I know that Ryles sold heavily on the "vision".
Considering the experience that we had in our "choosing" process it was not surprising we didn't select him coming off the failure at Titans......Ryles may have been new but not a "failure" could you imagine how the simpletons on here would have drawn the knives out for Holbrook if he was appointed, Wiz you were probably one of the few that knew his ability, good on you but alternatively you could argue that BA did something similar in 2022, he was busted during the year and the players brought him home after nearly losing the dressing room...... Holbrook has hardly had a worry free season either.
One final thought is there a parrallel with Holbrook and Matt Cameron, albeit not in coaching but in both cases being unwanted and victims of poor choices of the admin of their day.
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